On which base do you determine your charges, source or target text?

linguistceviri

As far as I know the discussion on the issue is still in progress. Translation agencies, individual clients and translators have been looking the issue from different perspectives. My point of view on the matter is simple; if a client sends you a document to be translated, her/his focus is strongly on the original (source) document and on its translation in such a way that reflects the same message or idea in the target language. Starting from this point you can express a sentence in different ways by changing the words thus you can easily increase or decrease word count in target text. So source text should be taken into consideration while determining the word count for a standardization. This is my point of view and anyone consider it in different ways. What do you think?
All my best.

eleonorang

I'm used to counting source words too, so much that the thought of a target word rate looks a bit weird to me! But I guess the target text is what a translator actually works on, so they think that represents more accurately the job they do? Oh well. I do hope we'll soon let go of this counting system, at least in most cases, and that the idea is spread further that translation is not math, and that we do not translate words, but meaning, perspectives, concepts, etc and in that sense our job is better charged by the hour or by project.

linguistceviri

Thanks eleonorang for sharing your valuable ideas with community on this challenging blurred issue. I am throughly agree with you. However determining factor for this issue in translation industry is the customer demands as all we know and the translation industry has got a broad specturum of service providers (agencies, freelancers). A customer/client has a vast web of translators to choose, so a translator is unable to stand upon his way of determining charges. Even though the hourly based rates seem to be more reasonable, the customers or clients are prone to pay on the word count base (source or target). My point of view is that they feel uneasy due to the the fact that the translators might arange the translation time in the course of completion and thus they pay more. But as you say;

eleonorang we do not translate words, but meaning, perspectives, concepts, etc

An experienced and qualified translator translates not only ideas but also ideas, concepts, opinions and so on...But it's hard to make understand this perception for a customer or client. Because for a customer/client the cost is of great importance and consider always the the lowest price. However this method could be applied at some controlled big projects .
As for word count, with the same point of view a client/customer always cares about the text or whatsoever he/she has got. So I think it looks as if the source word count based rates would be considered for a long while...
By the way there are other factors for MTs like new words, repetitions, internal matches etc. These are the other factors influence the total price in terms of source word count based calculations.

eleonorang translation is not math

That means in some ways translation is a little bit math in a sense ?

ninadepalma

Hmm. I think source word makes more sense than target word. I also like the idea of hourly/project rates, but I don't have enough experience yet to know how much I'm worth at those rates, hah.